Talk:Rumors and Misconceptions

Well, this page is finally here. Others can feel free to add information on fan-theories and rumors/misconceptions as they please, though I'm thinking of possibly breaking these up into sections (one for the series in-general, one for the anime, etc.). Ceras SanMarina 00:10, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Was wondering if someone could add in 'Arthur Kirkland, England or The UK?'. I always thought he was both, but yesterday someone said Himaruya stated Arthur is England and only The UK at meetings because 'his brothers embarrass him'. I'd said that Arthur was both England AND The UK (like he was the leader of sorts)... but isn't it effectively the same thing? I dunno, just a suggestion since it's confusing me a whole lot. --Elegentmess 06:00, January 5, 2010 (UTC)

Done! Added a sort of short-ish blurb for now, anyone else can feel free to expand upon it. Himaruya said that he's simply England around his brothers, UK to everyone else. It's in an old '08 Bamboo Thicket post (that I mistakenly thought was a lost one since I found it on the UK fanwiki, as the fanwikis tend to contain copy-pasted information from Himaruya's old logs and blog). Apparently Himaruya wants to explore more of Arthur before he introduces the other siblings, too. Scotland, Wales, and NI are confirmed boys, while Ireland's gender is up in the air for now (But it in '07 he was thinking it'd be a female one). Ceras SanMarina 21:09, January 5, 2010 (UTC)

Umm, hello. I was wondering if we could add something about whether Italy's name is Veneziano or Feliciano and if S. Italy is Romano or Lovino. I wasn't quite sure. Maybe they can go by both? 67.220.6.244 03:59, January 11, 2010 (UTC) the-dancing-onigiri

I'll see what can be done about that! To clarify though: "Veneziano" and "Romano" are the names used in-comic by Himaruya to distinguish them from each other, besides just using "North" and "South". Veneziano's for "Venice", Romano's for "Rome", and it seems like there's a bit of punniness in there too (Romano and Veneziano sound like the phrases "Roma no" and "Venezia no", which would be something like "The Roman" and "The Venetian" or "of Rome/Venice"). Their human names only got listed in the name-list Himaruya gave in his old diary, but it seems fans tend to forget about "Lovino" more often and just call him "Romano" then too. Ceras SanMarina 04:11, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

It looks like this page hasn't had any new sections added in a while, and I was wondering what everyone thinks would merit inclusion on this page? Just off the top of my head I came up with:

• Portugal, Luxembourg, Indonesia, and Malaysia's "character designs"
• New Zealand's Gender
• Macau/Mongolia's appearance in the Christmas strips/Mongolia & Golden Horde in general
• The "Possible Names"

Thoughts? -FH14 19:32, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Yes, yes, yes, and yes. You get a thumbs up from me! Icelilly 21:18, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Page Clean-up

Excuse me, I have a few ideas about restructuring this page and new rumors to add to it....
1) Perhaps we could make separate sections for different 'types' of rumors? Sample:

• Old rumors/misconceptions: rumors that have been explicitly disproven (The one about the Nordics' voice actors would go here.)
• Rumors/Misconceptions about specific characters: self-explanatory (I think a lot of the current page will end up here.)
• Rumors/Misconceptions about the series itself: (The one about Hetalia starting in 2003 would go here. Or would this go in the 'explicitly disproven' category? Hmm....)
• Rumors/Misconceptions about Himaruya: self-explanatory

2) We could add new rumors/misconceptions to the top of their respective categories instead of the bottom, in hopes that people will read them first.
3) Rumors we could add:

• Portugal, Luxembourg, Indonesia, and Malaysia's "character designs"
• New Zealand's Gender
• Macau/Mongolia's appearance in the Christmas strips/Mongolia & Golden Horde in general
• The "Possible Names"
• USUK becoming canon in season 5/Himaruya blog entry that says England is gay and has a crush on America
• People mistaken for Himaruya (that composer guy, friend he based Thailand on, etc.)

4) Some of the entries are a little wordy and could stand some editing for conciseness. I don't mean to step on any toes, I would just like to know if these are acceptable changes and if I may implement them! --167.206.228.214

This works for me! I think it's a great idea, though I'm not really against the wordiness of entries as long as it isn't messy. I think you should go ahead and do it! (And I hope it's not a problem/against the rules that I edited your comment to fix the html. . .I know I'm not supposed to edit other peoples' comments but it was kind of irking me haha.) Though, the USUK becoming/being canon isn't limited to Season 5--I think people were saying that about a strip in Volume 5, too. So, really, it should be more like pairing canonization or something rather than sticking to that specifically? Tarafishes (talk) 14:05, 20 February 2013 (CST)

Thanks for fixing my formatting! I fail at HTML, sorry about that. I didn't think that "pairing canonization" had enough concrete examples to merit its own section; I'll look for more examples to add to that. I have a lot going on at school, so this may take a little while, but I'll be happy to get this done. Thanks for contacting me so promptly!--167.206.228.214

Ooh! I'm late to the party! I like these ideas. I'm not sure the Macau/Mongolia thing needs to be added since I haven't heard too much about it. Like Tara said, the USUK thing isn't limited to season 5. USUK rumours have been flying for many years and it always seems to change depending on what's going on in the fandom, like a new anime season or manga volume. I think it might be a good add but I'm not sure what else could be added to a section like that. That section also needs to be written carefully since ships can strike unnecessary conflicts.

Eventually I'd like to get into sourcing what we can on this page. It's kind of silly to have a page like this but no visible sources. Not all of it can be sourced but if we can do what we can, I think it would add some creditably to the page! Icelilly (talk) 16:47, 20 February 2013 (CST)

I approve of cleaning this up too, as a lot of pages need some updating and cleaning (but a bunch of us are busy or forgot). If we can source some entries, all the better MetalPapillion (talk) 23:09, 8 November 2013 (CST)