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Opening Wiki

Oh is there any way you could change the default skin from Vector to Monobook? :/ -FH14 10:37, 1 November 2011 (EST)

I don't think you can but I can check. I think users can change to whichever skin they like but I think Vector will always be the default skin when they log out.
While I'm still here, would you like me to transfer your userpage over from the old wiki? Icelilly 10:42, 1 November 2011 (EST)
Already transferred it. And Vector is similar enough that it isn't that big of a deal TBH I just need to transfer some extra coding later (Do you mind if I do that now or..?) -FH14 11:11, 1 November 2011 (EST)
Sure! You can do it now. I'm just transferring over the images from the old wiki. Currently working on the flags. Once I get those done the profiles will be complete. Icelilly 11:19, 1 November 2011 (EST)
I thought you had a transfer file. How come some of the pages weren't copied over? :/ -FH14 11:22, 1 November 2011 (EST)
Oh and here this will probably help - Special:MultipleUpload -FH14 11:27, 1 November 2011 (EST)
I have a transfer file and it's a whopping 132 MB file and I can't upload it without it failing so I have to do it the long and hard way. Also the exporting process goes by categories so if a page doesn't have a category, it doesn't get transferred. The news and anniversary portals got transferred but I don't understand why they're not showing properly and it's baffling me. The characters list and the memes page are two pages I can't seem to transfer over without getting a session loss error message so I assume this is because of my slow and crappy internet. You could give it a shot yourself if you like. Exporting doesn't seem to be restricted to admins so anyone can do it. Oh and I'm using the multiple upload. It's my friend right now. :D Icelilly 11:44, 1 November 2011 (EST)
Please click edit and Copypasta this code into MediaWiki:Vector.css -FH14 14:29, 2 November 2011 (EST)

/* CSS placed here will affect users of the Monobook skin */

/* Background image */ body { background-image:url(http://hetalia.wikinet.org/w/images/hetalia/uploads/2/26/Background.png); background-repeat:repeat-y; }

/* Character Portal */

  1. bodyContent div.portal_charbox div.portal_inner_charbox {

visibility: hidden; }

  1. bodyContent div.portal_charbox:hover div.portal_inner_charbox {

visibility: visible; }

Oh and do the same (go to edit window and copypasta) for the following code into MediaWiki:Common.js -FH14 14:34, 2 November 2011 (EST)

/** Collapsible tables *********************************************************

 *
 *  Description: Allows tables to be collapsed, showing only the header. See
 *               Wikipedia:NavFrame.
 *  Maintainers: User:R. Koot
 */

var autoCollapse = 2;
var collapseCaption = "hide";
var expandCaption = "show";

function collapseTable( tableIndex )
{
    var Button = document.getElementById( "collapseButton" + tableIndex );
    var Table = document.getElementById( "collapsibleTable" + tableIndex );

    if ( !Table || !Button ) {
        return false;
    }

    var Rows = Table.rows;

    if ( Button.firstChild.data == collapseCaption ) {
        for ( var i = 1; i < Rows.length; i++ ) {
            Rows[i].style.display = "none";
        }
        Button.firstChild.data = expandCaption;
    } else {
        for ( var i = 1; i < Rows.length; i++ ) {
            Rows[i].style.display = Rows[0].style.display;
        }
        Button.firstChild.data = collapseCaption;
    }
}

function createCollapseButtons()
{
    var tableIndex = 0;
    var NavigationBoxes = new Object();
    var Tables = document.getElementsByTagName( "table" );

    for ( var i = 0; i < Tables.length; i++ ) {
        if ( hasClass( Tables[i], "collapsible" ) ) {

            /* only add button and increment count if there is a header row to work with */
            var HeaderRow = Tables[i].getElementsByTagName( "tr" )[0];
            if (!HeaderRow) continue;
            var Header = HeaderRow.getElementsByTagName( "th" )[0];
            if (!Header) continue;

            NavigationBoxes[ tableIndex ] = Tables[i];
            Tables[i].setAttribute( "id", "collapsibleTable" + tableIndex );

            var Button     = document.createElement( "span" );
            var ButtonLink = document.createElement( "a" );
            var ButtonText = document.createTextNode( collapseCaption );

            Button.style.styleFloat = "right";
            Button.style.cssFloat = "right";
            Button.style.fontWeight = "normal";
            Button.style.textAlign = "right";
            Button.style.width = "6em";

            ButtonLink.style.color = Header.style.color;
            ButtonLink.setAttribute( "id", "collapseButton" + tableIndex );
            ButtonLink.setAttribute( "href", "javascript:collapseTable(" + tableIndex + ");" );
            ButtonLink.appendChild( ButtonText );

            Button.appendChild( document.createTextNode( "[" ) );
            Button.appendChild( ButtonLink );
            Button.appendChild( document.createTextNode( "]" ) );

            Header.insertBefore( Button, Header.childNodes[0] );
            tableIndex++;
        }
    }

    for ( var i = 0;  i < tableIndex; i++ ) {
        if ( hasClass( NavigationBoxes[i], "collapsed" ) || ( tableIndex >= autoCollapse && hasClass( NavigationBoxes[i], "autocollapse" ) ) ) {
            collapseTable( i );
        }
    }
}

addOnloadHook( createCollapseButtons );

/** Dynamic Navigation Bars (experimental) *************************************
 *
 *  Description: See Wikipedia:NavFrame.
 *  Maintainers: UNMAINTAINED
 */

 // set up the words in your language
 var NavigationBarHide = '[' + collapseCaption + ']';
 var NavigationBarShow = '[' + expandCaption + ']';

 // shows and hides content and picture (if available) of navigation bars
 // Parameters:
 //     indexNavigationBar: the index of navigation bar to be toggled
 function toggleNavigationBar(indexNavigationBar)
 {
    var NavToggle = document.getElementById("NavToggle" + indexNavigationBar);
    var NavFrame = document.getElementById("NavFrame" + indexNavigationBar);

    if (!NavFrame || !NavToggle) {
        return false;
    }

    // if shown now
    if (NavToggle.firstChild.data == NavigationBarHide) {
        for (
                var NavChild = NavFrame.firstChild;
                NavChild != null;
                NavChild = NavChild.nextSibling
            ) {
            if ( hasClass( NavChild, 'NavPic' ) ) {
                NavChild.style.display = 'none';
            }
            if ( hasClass( NavChild, 'NavContent') ) {
                NavChild.style.display = 'none';
            }
        }
    NavToggle.firstChild.data = NavigationBarShow;

    // if hidden now
    } else if (NavToggle.firstChild.data == NavigationBarShow) {
        for (
                var NavChild = NavFrame.firstChild;
                NavChild != null;
                NavChild = NavChild.nextSibling
            ) {
            if (hasClass(NavChild, 'NavPic')) {
                NavChild.style.display = 'block';
            }
            if (hasClass(NavChild, 'NavContent')) {
                NavChild.style.display = 'block';
            }
        }
    NavToggle.firstChild.data = NavigationBarHide;
    }
 }

 // adds show/hide-button to navigation bars
 function createNavigationBarToggleButton()
 {
    var indexNavigationBar = 0;
    // iterate over all < div >-elements 
    var divs = document.getElementsByTagName("div");
    for(
            var i=0; 
            NavFrame = divs[i]; 
            i++
        ) {
        // if found a navigation bar
        if (hasClass(NavFrame, "NavFrame")) {

            indexNavigationBar++;
            var NavToggle = document.createElement("a");
            NavToggle.className = 'NavToggle';
            NavToggle.setAttribute('id', 'NavToggle' + indexNavigationBar);
            NavToggle.setAttribute('href', 'javascript:toggleNavigationBar(' + indexNavigationBar + ');');

            var NavToggleText = document.createTextNode(NavigationBarHide);
            for (
                 var NavChild = NavFrame.firstChild;
                 NavChild != null;
                 NavChild = NavChild.nextSibling
                ) {
                if ( hasClass( NavChild, 'NavPic' ) || hasClass( NavChild, 'NavContent' ) ) {
                    if (NavChild.style.display == 'none') {
                        NavToggleText = document.createTextNode(NavigationBarShow);
                        break;
                    }
                }
            }

            NavToggle.appendChild(NavToggleText);
            // Find the NavHead and attach the toggle link (Must be this complicated because Moz's firstChild handling is borked)
            for(
              var j=0; 
              j < NavFrame.childNodes.length; 
              j++
            ) {
              if (hasClass(NavFrame.childNodes[j], "NavHead")) {
                NavFrame.childNodes[j].appendChild(NavToggle);
              }
            }
            NavFrame.setAttribute('id', 'NavFrame' + indexNavigationBar);
        }
    }
 }

 addOnloadHook( createNavigationBarToggleButton );


/* Test if an element has a certain class **************************************

 *
 * Description: Uses regular expressions and caching for better performance.
 * Maintainers: User:Mike Dillon, User:R. Koot, User:SG
 */

var hasClass = (function () {
    var reCache = {};
    return function (element, className) {
        return (reCache[className] ? reCache[className] : (reCache[className] = new RegExp("(?:\\s|^)" + className + "(?:\\s|$)"))).test(element.className);
    };
})();
Might be for the best to change the default skin to Monobook. Just make sure to copypasta the stuff in MediaWiki:Vector.css into MediaWiki:Monobook.css -FH14 15:33, 2 November 2011 (EST)
Alright done! Icelilly 15:34, 2 November 2011 (EST)

FH14 Mockups

Oh here's a section where we can discuss the mockups~ User:FH14/Sandbox. So what do you think about Cyprus? And I think Thailand and Vietnam may have enough after we get the information from the Special Edition booklet that has yet to be translated. -FH14 14:25, 1 November 2011 (EST)

Yep! You get the okay from me! I think Thailand and Vietnam could be good to go too but if you want to wait till the SE booklet gets translated we can do that too. Icelilly 14:33, 1 November 2011 (EST)
Maybe you're right. :/ And I also did mockups for Romania and Macau which seem to be pretty good (though I don't have the kanji/katakana for Macau yet and is Romania's correct? I hope you didn't use an online text translator because they're unreliable.) -FH14 16:34, 3 November 2011 (EST)
The kanji/katakana is correct. The romanization (I guess that's the right word?) might be a bit rough but I got it from a English-Japanese dictionary I have in my room (that's currently collecting dust). The book didn't have Macau so I left it blank. The mock-ups are turning out quite nicely! Icelilly 16:48, 3 November 2011 (EST)
Is it okay if I just go ahead and make the pages for Romania, Thailand, and Vietnam? -FH14 08:38, 4 November 2011 (EST)
Sure! Go right ahead! Icelilly 08:39, 4 November 2011 (EST)

Interwiki

Could you change the kitayume link on Special:Interwiki to http://kitayume.wikinet.org/wiki/$1 -FH14 15:37, 9 November 2011 (EST)

Done! Icelilly 15:43, 9 November 2011 (EST)

Ability to block editing?

I was recently wondering if admins had the ability to block editing on certain articles? I ask because there will probably come a time when articles, particularly controversial ones, are going to be edited. Wikipedia has the ability to lock articles, and I was wondering if this site allowed for that as well. For example, Wikipedia articles can be locked so only certain groups (admins, mods, registered users, etc.) can edit. Watermint 12:27, 10 November 2011 (EST)

I can block editing by protecting the article or through the Farmer setting though the latter option would be global. I know when we moved, protection on certain articles (ex. the main page) wore off so I've been slowing putting that back on. Protect only gives me three options: Allow all users, Block unregistered and new users and admins only. That's the most I can do. Icelilly 12:57, 10 November 2011 (EST)

All I needed to know! Thanks! Those protective measures sound fine. They will come in handy for controversial articles, and perhaps articles that we don't want tampered with when they reach a certain quality. Watermint 15:17, 10 November 2011 (EST)

Just so ya know...

For volume 3 mentions, we don't need to link it directly to Volume 3. It isn't case sensitive, so it doesn't even require a redirect :) Watermint 07:03, 17 November 2011 (EST)

Ah, my bad! Thanks for letting me know! Icelilly 07:59, 17 November 2011 (EST)

Could you direct me to the post about Kugelmugel's gender being a translation error? -FH14 09:15, 23 November 2011 (EST)

I posted the link on the talk page for minor characters list here. Icelilly 09:19, 23 November 2011 (EST)
Just saw that. Thanks! (BTW would you mind if I changed the feature article in honor of the site event?) -FH14 09:38, 23 November 2011 (EST)
Sure! Go right ahead! Icelilly 09:39, 23 November 2011 (EST)

User talk:Watermint#Hutt River >.> -FH14 15:45, 24 November 2011 (EST)

Yep! It's good to go! Sorry I took so long to give my approval. Icelilly 16:55, 24 November 2011 (EST)
Hey, it's fine! It's, like, 1 AM there. (And here.) Watermint 17:08, 24 November 2011 (EST)
True, true. XD I'm probably going to be heading to bed (since I never know when I'm going to get called in for training). If you need my approval for more page creations, chances are the pages will probably be good to go so you have my go ahead for any future articles tonight! Icelilly 17:19, 24 November 2011 (EST)

Interwiki part deux

Could you add the Chibisan Date wiki to the interwiki data? (Format seen here - http://kitayume.wikinet.org/wiki/Special:Interwiki ) -FH14 12:00, 16 December 2011 (EST)

I tried adding the data and it appears to have worked but it won't work on the main page no matter how I try it. I'll keep at it though! I'll be back in an hour to work on it again. Icelilly 12:47, 16 December 2011 (EST)
No wait. Never mind. It works! It seems to have started working after edited the main page. Do you need a hand in getting the wiki set up at all? Icelilly 12:54, 16 December 2011 (EST)
I think I basically moved all the pages (at least that were on wikinet. Damn Shoutwiki downtime.) Do you remember who made the BGs for here and the kitayume wiki? Because I was hoping I could get a yellow/gold version for the Chibisan Date wiki... -FH14 15:30, 16 December 2011 (EST)
Yep! Butterfly made them. I don't think she's aware that we moved so they best way to contact her is through Wikia. Icelilly 17:14, 16 December 2011 (EST)

I'm having trouble getting the news feature working properly over here and I was hoping you could figure out what I'm missing/doing wrong. -FH14 23:41, 20 December 2011 (EST)

Sure! I ran into the same problem when I was transferring pages for HA. It's because the site name is ChibisanDateWiki and not Chibisan Date Wiki. Because of that, it's treating the piece like a template (notice how it says "Template:Chibisan Date Wiki:Main Page/News" on the main page). To fix this, you can either rename the news portal (since I've seen you've already created it) to ChibisanDateWiki:Main Page/News or you can redirect the template on the main page to the news portal page; if you're like a crazy perfectionist like me. XD When I was transferring the pages, I redirected the template to "Hetalia Archives:Main Page/News" rather than rename it to "HetaliaArchives:Main Page/News" because the lack of spaces bugs the crap out of me. The same story goes for the anniversary portal. I'll let you decide how you want to do it so I won't touch anything. If the main page doesn't look any different, just F5 it or over-write the main page with a new version (you don't need to make any edits. Just press edit and save the page). I had to do this to get the Chibisan Date Wiki interwiki link to work properly on the main page last week. Let me know how things go! Icelilly 11:08, 21 December 2011 (EST)

Appearances idea

As I was going to put a Poptart in the toaster, I randomly thought of this possibly-useful idea. What if we were to have character anime appearance categories that could be linked to via character articles? For example, if Sealand were in an episode, the episode article would be tagged with "Sealand anime appearance". Then, in the Sealand article (under anime), there be "See also: Category:Sealand anime appearance". The DC Wikia utilizes something similar and I've found it immensely helpful. So, I'll use it as sort of a skeleton example. Take this article for Bunker. At the bottom of the page, there is a link for appearances. Click on it, and you have a listing of his appearances. This would work kind of like that. Thoughts? It could also work for Drama CDs and even the manga (though with four volumes and several strips, it may not be worth it.) Watermint 13:52, 29 December 2011 (EST)

Hmm... It's an interesting idea! It could help clear the confusion when finding episodes with their favourite character(s) since most of the episodes don't have episode titles associated with them. It could work for the drama CDs but I'm doubting with the manga just because there's so many strips. I'm a bit split on the idea but I'm curious to hear everyone else's opinion on this! Icelilly 14:12, 29 December 2011 (EST)
Don't mean to hijack but I've actually been mulling over something like this for a while. Over at the LG15 wiki we have something similar (example: This and This) -FH14 14:19, 29 December 2011 (EST)
You aren't hijacking, FH14 :D Icelilly - Yeah, I agree with the manga. It works in theory, but I don't it'd be that useful. Watermint 14:30, 29 December 2011 (EST)
Ooh! I like the usage on Rachel's page. It's just a link on the template rather than in the article itself. If we can somehow include it into the template code, I think it could work! Icelilly 14:33, 29 December 2011 (EST)


Language Boxes

Umm...here are the Mandarin and Cantonese Language boxes: http://hetalia.wiknet.org/User:WonderfulAsia/Sandbox Please tell me if they happen to be incorrect - or fix them to your liking! Thank you! WonderfulAsia


Thank you for the help....ehehehe... I haven't been editing for nearly a year now....*sighs* I seem as if I am technologically illiterate....all I did...was translate....but that's all I can do..^_^;;; You can now edit them as you wish, or make them a separate template...etc...etc...I guess that's all I can contribute now...if you need help with more translations, or you get contacted from a non-English speaker (that happens to be from China/Taiwan/HK/Macau...etc.) - please don't hesitate to call me...ehehehe... WonderfulAsia

Great - thank you for all the help! I am here if my translation and cultural explanation services are needed~ Contact me here - or for a more fast result DeviantArt. Have a great rest of the day~ WonderfulAsia


Email Notifications?=

I was wondering if you get email notifications when certain pages(the ones on your watchlist) are edited? I have it set to do so, but so far I've only ever gotten an email notification for edits to my talk page, even though I have a bunch of pages watched. Or should I contact the wikinet staff about that and not you? (I just thought I'd check to see if it were a universal thing or if it was something you had set off, and not my error before trying to contact staff.) Tarafishes 11:51, 6 July 2012 (EST)

Strips of the Volume 5 Manga

I'm not sure if I should post them. If I should, how do I? I found all of them on a website called tumblr.

They aren't to be posted here. This isn't the place--we're not sharing scans here. They've already been shared on tumblr and the main Hetalia communtiy on LJ. Tarafishes 12:09, 8 August 2012 (EST)

sources

Hello Icelilly, since you probably didn't trust the England information that they're canon here is the source, this is made by Himaruya Hidekaz: http://www.hetarchive.net/scanlations/nonlinear.php?tns

I've added the England information back if you don't mind, I'll find the France source ASAP. Sempiee 06:31, 30 September 2012 (EST)

Thank you for the link! Though I'm not sure if the section can stand on it's own since their relationship hasn't really been elaborated enough. It might be better off as a piece of trivia but it's something I'll have to think about. Icelilly 07:09, 30 September 2012 (EST)


Found more sources

I've found more of the relationship between Korea and Hong Kong including China in here: http://himaruya.blog61.fc2.com/blog-entry-1284.html And the one with Korea and Hong Kong, look: http://www.hetarchive.net/scanlations/xmas2011/kansanto.jpg

I'm still searching for the source one with France and Korea. If I find it then I'll send you a message ASAP! :D

Sempiee 20:50, 30 September 2012 (EST)

=question

Hello, you're suppose to be the admin Icelilly, right? I'd a question for you in my mind. Fanon things and information which aren't having any facts or source yet or source that are false shouldn't be added right? Because I was going through the archive here on this wiki and I saw some information of Belarus that I was thinking I've never saw and heard of this before. I went to my Japanese friends which knows everything about the anime Hetalia and asked them about it they told me: this didn't happened nor that it will happen. They also asked their own friends about this and they said the same. I myself went through sites and doing research and I didn't saw anything of this and since I'm half Japanese, I can speak, read, write Japanese very well. Anyway, I want to ask if I have permission to remove this false information? Since this shouldn't be added only if it really happened but since it didn't happened it shouldn't be added.

Thank you very much for reading, I'll wait patiently back for your reply. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sinterklaas (talkcontribs) 18:26, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

Hi, not Icelilly but I thought I'd throw my two cents in. Just because you haven't been able to locate the information yourself doesn't mean it isn't necessarily true. There is a lot of information that's obscure and hidden in odd places of Himaruya's websites. I believe the information in question is from the Belarus page, which Tara has stated comes from the Sealand-Latvia Desktop Mascots. I haven't gone through the script personally so I don't know specifics, but the Mascots themselves are canon creations by Himaruya, and can be downloaded from his official website here with a FAQ in English here.
Also, please remember to sign your comments in the future. Just end your post with ~~~~ and the wiki will generate the signature automatically. -FH14 04:33, 30 September 2012 (EST)
Please do not remove comments on talk pages (unless they are obvious vandalism, which mine is not). Not only is this against the rules but it is really rude. -FH14 05:15, 30 September 2012 (EST)
Oh, I give my apologise since I'm not really aware of the rules and I prefer to do things on my own without someone interupt it but I understand it.

(Sorry if my english sounds weird, sometimes I find this difficult, though.) Anyway, I'll wait patiently. (since now I've to go.) Sinterklaas 05:24, 30 September 2012 (EST)

(Okay, lets try this for the third time.)

Hello. Yes I am the admin here. I apologize for taking so long to answer your question.

Anyways, yes fanon and incorrect info shouldn't be listed on the wiki. However, the info presented on Belarus page came from the Sealand-Latvia desktop mascots which were made by Himaruya himself so it is canon. I trust Tara translated the information correctly and like she said on your talk page there is a folder that contains all the information that states this. Just because you or your friends aren't familiar with the info does not mean it isn't true. Himaruya has been known to delete things out of the blue and scatter things around to the point they're impossible to find. This is especially true with info posted very early on in the series (2006-early 2008) and very few are even aware of the info posted at around this time. This is true not only for the Western fans but for the Eastern fans as well. For that reason, please do not remove the info.

Like FH14 said, please do not remove other people's comments unless it's spam or vandalism which in this case it wasn't. It is considered to be rude behaviour and if it becomes a problem you can be banned for a short period of time. Please remember to read the rules before editing as it's a must for everyone. Icelilly 05:36, 30 September 2012 (EST)


questions for you

are there more anime sources? :o — Preceding unsigned comment added by Foreignn (talkcontribs) 20:44, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

Can you elaborate? I'm afraid I don't understand your question. Also, please do not remove other people's comments. It's extremely rude and against the rules of the wiki. If this becomes a problem, I will have to ban you for a short period. Please also sign your comments. That is also a rule here. Icelilly 07:09, 30 September 2012 (EST)

Ahahahaha, look who's back?

The title says it all. I see my friends enjoy Hetalia so much, and while re-reading some old things, I find myself loving Hetalia all over again. I'm happy to say I'm returning, and hope I can be a helpful member. ^_^;

Wonderfulasia 10:07, 2 October 2012 (EST)

YOU'RE BACK!! I'm so happy to hear that! \o/ And I'm sure FH14 will be too! Icelilly 10:14, 2 October 2012 (EST)

The Templates

Yeah basically what happened is that this site uses a more current version of MediaWiki than wikinet does, so the extra line of coding is needed. -FH14 (talk) 15:56, 13 November 2012 (CST)

Ah, I see. Thanks for letting me know! I just got home so I'll get back to uploading the images. \o/ Icelilly (talk) 21:21, 13 November 2012 (CST)

Lonettek

Nothing major, I just noticed that I think you may have banned a non-spam account([Special:Contributions/Lonettek|Lonettek]?) Their page didn't have anything on it and they hadn't made any edits--I think you banned them in error because they happened to have made an account in the midst of some spambots doing so. Of course, maybe they were a spambot of some sort(you can see more info than I can, I think) but I was just wondering if there's a way to undo it? Wouldn't want to falsely ban anybody. . . . Tarafishes (talk) 23:35, 22 November 2012 (CST)

Lonettek was a spambot (they were the one who posted that silly page "Tripp Pants"). Any edits that are deleted don't show up on User contributions so it appeared like they haven't made any edits. I'm pretty careful about that since I usually don't ban anyone unless they start spamming (or their username contains gibberish, then I know for sure they are a spambot). Thank you for asking though! Messages like these always keep me on my toes! Icelilly (talk) 10:31, 23 November 2012 (CST)

Heta Oni and Other Musings

Hello there! I didn't know that we moved again! :0 I'm so out of it... I'm sorry. m(- -)m Anyways...I found this regarding the English version of Heta Oni: http://pianodream.deviantart.com/journal/HetaOni-v17-1-Soon-BUT-339542790 , and thought maybe we the Wiki could help spread the word regarding the requirements the translators have set up?

Wonderfulasia (talk) 12:00, 25 November 2012 (CST)

Replying

Hi! ^_^ Thanks for the help but it still won't let me. If it's just an editing problem I can just edit some more~ --Mai Is Me (talk) 16:59, 15 February 2013 (CST)

Oh dear, that's troubling to me. D: I'll see if I can get in contact with him through e-mail! Icelilly (talk) 17:24, 15 February 2013 (CST)

Translations and Templates

Hello IceLilly! Thank you for being such a great admin and helping me with the addition to the Wy page, I don't know who Andy is but they seem to have not removed it so I'm assuming it's good! :) I have two more questions because I am just sort of starting out, this is the first wiki I've contributed to! I apologise in advance as I don't really understand the Editing tools yet and the "Editing help" page brings me to a blank one...is there a good place to learn how the wiki Editing functions?

  • I've noticed that there are several templates to the many song lyric pages on this wiki: Stacked, Tabbed, and Tabled. Which is the correct one to use? The tabbed one looks like the one that's being used most widely right now but I don't want to switch templates until I know for sure!
  • I don't speak japanese myself but I have found what I believe to be a reputable source (in a tumblr user that demonstrates ability and has posted their own translation) to a few songs. Is it OK to post these as the English lyrics or can it only be done if I translated it myself?

Thank you so much for your assistance! --TheMusicGirl (talk) 22:53, 7 July 2015 (CDT)

Hi there! No worries, everyone starts somewhere! I'm actually in the process in getting those help pages finished behind the scenes so in the meantime, you can use this cheatsheet from Wikipedia. This list covers a lot of the basics that's universally used in all wikis. Another way to learn is to keep an open edit of a similar page in a new tab and cross-reference when you're editing. I find this technique helps when you're learning to code and use templates. This is how I learned to edit! Also, the preview button will be your best friend. It's important to use it, no matter what level of skill you're at.
The stacked format was the main format but as of last week, we're switching over to the tabbed format. Andy's been in the process of switching them over. That's why half the pages right now have one format and the rest have another. No need to worry about the tabled format. That was just me playing around in my little sandbox. C:
You can post lyrics that were not translated by you but you need to obtain permission from the original translator first. We have this rule in place because we had issues with past editors who were taking lyrics from translators who did not want their translations reprinted. Also be sure to leave credits of the original translator. You can do that by typing in <!-- credit here -->. That way, credit remains in the coding but doesn't show up in the actual article itself. If the lyrics are your own, you can ignore that step. The History page takes care of that.
Andy is the other admin here so if you ever run into issues or have more questions, you can get in touch with him as well. I hope this helps! Icelilly (talk) 13:32, 8 July 2015 (CDT)
Thank you so much for your help!! Another question is that I've been trying to find lyrics to songs, and I have found more updated ones on The Wikia Version... I know that there was a whole thing with the wikis awhile back, and I thought that one was abandoned, and this was the most up-to-date one? But people are still editing the other one, and it's still up...you don't have to go into detail, I just wanna know if THAT'S the main wiki and if the lyrics posted there are reputable enough to paste here! Thank you again!! --TheMusicGirl (talk) 15:18, 9 July 2015 (CDT)
Hi there! The Wikia site was our first location (hence the reason they till use the Hetalia Archives name). I haven't been there in ages but it looks like the higher ups at Wikia put new admins in place to keep it going. I'm guessing someone probably put in a request to adopt the wiki and it was granted. We have no control over what goes on there anymore. This wiki here is the main one and we would prefer editors to not copy content from there.
Also please don't forget to sign your comments! You can do that by typing ~~~~ and it will generate your signature automatically. C: Icelilly (talk) 12:14, 9 July 2015 (CDT)
Ah, I forgot again...haha...sorry!! There's even a handy button up there for it, I just forgot! Please forgive my mistakes! I will get better with time for sure. Thank you again with your help, I don't want to bombard you with questions!! Please please please forgive me for this last question: does Romanji need to be cited? I have no idea how it's generated but I've seen it missing in places, I know it's just a romanized version of the japanese characters. I found a site that seems to "romanji-ize" japanese for me, is that reputable? I can link it if need be! Thank you times a billion for your help :) --TheMusicGirl (talk) 15:18, 9 July 2015 (CDT)
No worries, mistakes happen! And don't worry about the questions either. That's why me and Andy are here. C: If it's just getting the romanji for a song title, it doesn't need to be cited (lyrics do on the other hand). However, I'm not sure how a site like that would be reputable. Is this like a generator? I don't think I'd trust something like that since it would be like throwing the lyrics through Google Translate. I'd trust a dictionary more, which I think is how some of the other editors do it. Icelilly (talk) 20:15, 12 July 2015 (CDT)

Glitch

I don't know if it's the host server, the website itself or my devices (an iPhone on iOS 8.4 and a New Nintendo 3DS XL), but for whatever reason, the Hetalia Kitawiki will not display on my iPhone or New 3DS XL. I'm honestly surprised this editor popped up. Instead, some strange warnings pop up. I will also post this on tumblr in case you can't see this.

I can confirm it's not just your devices; I've tried accessing the site on every device I have available and the glitch has been happening to me as well. RayquazaMaster (talk) 20:30, July 21 2015 (EDT)

Please refer to this. We're aware of the issue and Andy's in the process of trying to fix it. Thanks for your patience! Icelilly (talk) 19:36, 21 July 2015 (CDT)

Hey :)

You can delete this section once you read it, but I just wanted to let you know that on the link to your old DeviantART account, you misspelled "deviantart" in the link as "devianart" (notice the lack of the first t). Just thought I'd help you out~ --Aykrivwassup (talk) 08:43, 3 August 2015 (CDT)

Thanks! I've gone and fixed that. C: Icelilly (talk) 11:41, 3 August 2015 (CDT)